Wolf Interrupted

Lookout Pack Pups. Photo: Conservation Northwest

My, What Big Teeth You Have

“Can anyone tell me what’s good about wolves?” asked nine-year-old Irene Popp of Kamiah, Idaho, during a public meeting in Salmon. The 27 July meeting preceded the Idaho Fish and Game Commission vote the next day which set the hunting and trapping — leg hold and neck snare (read, strangulation) — season for the Northern Rocky Mountain gray wolf.

I wasn’t at the meeting and I don’t live in Idaho. From my wee abode in the shadow of Last Chance, I listened to this story on NPR by Jessica Robertson, NW News Network. Maybe little Irene had been reading wolf-vilifying fairytales such as “Little Red Riding Hood” or “Three Little Pigs”? How could one so young form such a definite and angry sentiment against wolves? I went so far as to locate little Irene’s telephone number through her father’s listing. Mike Popp, Irene’s daddy, was also mentioned in the story and the two were listed as a father and daughter anti-wolf team. I simply wanted to call up little Irene and ask her why she felt so strongly against wolves. No harm intended.

While searching for Mike Popp’s number, I discovered that papa Popp owns an outfitting and guide business and is licensed for bobcat, deer, bear, cougar and, last but not least, wolf hunting. OK, so I no longer needed to ask little Irene why she felt so negatively toward wolves. I had my answer. I could only imagine what she’d been hearing around the dinner table. I did not pick up the telephone.

“Open ’em year round. Hunt ’em, trap ’em, run ’em over. Don’t make a collared wolf illegal to shoot. Shoot ’em!” Mike Popp exclaimed during the meeting in Salmon. Papa Popp was also there with a group called the Committee for a Safe and Wolf-Free Idaho. Scary stuff.

I typically find myself rooting for underdogs such as the Big Bad Wolf, who was cooked up in a pot in the conclusion of “Three Little Pigs.” I feel pity for the Big Grey Wolf, who was strung up by his tale and later paraded off to the zoo in “Peter and the Wolf.” I am horrified when the hunter cuts open the belly of the wolf to release Little Red Riding Hood and her grandmamma, filling the gaping cavity with stones so he will drown. (After all, maybe granny and Lil’ Red had it coming?) I even want Wile E. Coyote to catch that damn, smug roadrunner, to stop falling from cliffs, being crushed by various heavy objects.

Little Irene Popp, wolves help keep our forest’s creeks and rivers healthy by bringing ungulate populations in check. In this same circle of life, wolves help keep healthy the deer populations your father hunts and guides other folks to hunt. Wolves help keep your daddy in business and food on your table. Wolves play harmony in the music of the wild, and pepper the forests with magic and mystery. We would be less in the absence of wolves.

We Had Wolves

During the summer of 2008, the Lookout Pack in the Methow Valley, a mountain and river valley in north-central Washington I call home, was confirmed by WDFW as being the first wolf pack in Washington State since the 1930s. Some of us in the valley cheered! Some set traps, picked up guns, laced meet with arsenic and got busy. Shoot, shovel, shut up!

By 2010, the radio-collared alpha female was missing and presumed dead, nay poached.

Once numbering upwards of 10 or 11 individuals, the pack has now been diminished to two males, likely the old alpha and one of his sons. However, there has not been much proof of their continued existence over the past couple of months.

Thankfully, the ranching family who “got busy” is pretty dang stupid, and while you can’t shoot stupid, you can convict. Three area residents were indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of killing several endangered Washington gray wolves: One family member tried sending a pelt to Canada and was caught when a shipping agent alerted authorities to a box leaking blood. Another emailed a relative in Alaska asking for help in trapping wolves, later emailing that he and others were hunting wolves near his property. In January 2009, he again sent an email claiming he and others shot two wolves in a group of nine, and one wolf in a group of three.

The ranch had not experienced any loss of livestock due to wolf predation and is being investigated on other charges of illegal hunting, e.g. deer out of season, hunting cougar with dogs, baiting beer.

So when Idaho Dave responded to my May blog post offering, “If you’d like, Idaho would be happy to share a few extras [wolves] with your area,” I only wish we could oblige…

Lookout Pack, 1 Year Pup. Photo: Conservation Northwest

Over the Mountain and Through the Woods

A bit farther south in the Cascade Range, another wolf pack has been found in the middle of a USFS allotment. The Smackout pack, as it is being referred, is small with an alpha female and male, and three pups. The alpha female weighs in at a whopping 65 pounds (who’s afraid of the big bad wolf?) and has DNA ties to the once thriving Lookout pack. Hope springs eternal.

Recommended Reading

• “Three Among the Wolves: A Couple and Their Dog Live a Year with Wolves in the Wild.” Helen Thayer, Copyright 2004, published by Sasquatch Books

• “Never Cry Wolf: Amazing True Story of Life Among Arctic Wolves.” Farley Mowat, Copyright 1963, published by Little, Brown and Company

• And this Guest Column Piece written for the Omak-Okanogan County (WA) Chronicle by Conservation Northwest’s Outreach Associate, Jay Kehne. Used here with Jay’s permission:

Many people in the Okanogan are talking about wolves since they returned to our county a couple years ago. If you believe everything that is being said about wolves at public meetings, coffee shops and on the internet, you may not be getting the whole story. You may have been fed a line.

Such is the case of the recent resolution by the Okanogan County Commissioners asking the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife (WDFW) to remove protections for the wolf. Its allegations are mostly unfounded, it will not succeed, and it will be remembered largely as a waste of energy and time. I predict that the WDFW will send Okanogan County a letter explaining the well-established biological and legal basis for protecting wolves as an endangered species in Washington. Then we will be right back where we started, needing to separate facts from myths about wolves so we can move forward and learn how to live with them. Take into consideration that the results of a recent poll show a whopping 70% of Washington residents support wolf recovery in our state.

As a friend, acquaintance and neighbor to many people in Okanogan County, I want to share information about wolves and help stop the unproductive and unfounded fear-based rumors, untruths and wild stories that are going around. Hear me out; I’d like to take them on one by one:

Wolves will infect us all with Echinococcus tape worm!  This tape worm is found in canines around the world, including dogs, coyotes, wolves and fox. The eggs of the tapeworm can spread to wild and domestic ungulates, like deer and sheep when infected canid feces are ingested. Ungulates also can give the tapeworm to canines when an infected ungulate is eaten. But people will not get tapeworms from eating infected deer, elk, or sheep. The Tapeworm can only be transmitted to humans that ingest infected canid feces. The risk of infection to humans remains infinitesimally small and certainly won’t change significantly because a few wolves are spread out over millions of acres of woods.

Gray wolves are not native to Washington! It is scientifically documented that wolves first migrated into Washington from the southern Great Plains about 10,000 years ago, and wolves were routinely observed and trapped by pioneers. With territories of over 350 square miles, and excellent dispersal capability, wolves have been wandering back and forth across the Canadian border for eons. Gray wolves living in Canada and Washington, were and are, all the same species. When wolves disappeared from Washington in the 1930s due to trapping, poisoning and hunting, the same gray wolf species still existed in Canada. And now these wolves have wandered back into Okanogan County. Same wolves, same species. In fact, recent research involving DNA from hundreds of wolves from Canada, Idaho, Montana and Wyoming found there is no genetic difference between them.

Supposedly there are sworn affidavits that people saw wolves being released in Okanogan County! I’m sure somebody saw something, but to believe these were wolves you’d have to ignore a whole lot of things. Even highly trained biologists and trappers need more than a quick sighting to verify a wolf. To verify a wolf you need pictures, photos of tracks, or DNA evidence to be sure what you “saw” wasn’t a wolf-dog hybrid, coyote, or some other big dog. People dump unwanted pets every week in our area. Think about it, who would have the skills, motives or funds to track wolves (most likely in Canada) trap them, dart them, transport them unnoticed across the border, and release them in our county? Not to mention the alleged sighting took place in 2005 and the signed affidavit didn’t appear until 2011?

We will have monster 200 lb wolves!  The Idaho Department of Fish and Game would beg to differ. Of the 188 wolves taken in the 2009 Idaho wolf hunt, the record weight was 127 lbs and the average was 95 lbs. The myth of monster wolves comes from “Little Red Riding Hood” and “The Three Little Pigs” children’s stories, not from reality. And the pictures of giant wolves you see on the internet … well, even Photoshop or a wide-angle camera lens can make the fish I catch look big!

But what about all the livestock loss because of wolves! Fortunately, there is good data on livestock predation. With 1,500 wolves in the Rockies and 3,000 in Minnesota, only 1% of cattle losses were due to predators. Of that 1% percent, coyotes accounted for 53%, domestic dogs 10% and wolves 4% of all predator losses. Neighbors’ dogs kill three times as much livestock as wolves! After the poaching of the Lookout Pack in the Methow, we only have two confirmed adult wolves in Okanogan County and a few scattered sightings of lone wolves. Even if Okanogan County’s wolf population grows to what experts expect (about 4-6 packs or 40-60 wolves), livestock losses will be extremely low. Let’s get proactive now so we can have plans in place to avoid wolf and livestock conflicts and funds to fully compensate ranchers if conflicts do occur.

Wolves will multiply to unmanageable numbers and overrun the county! Predator populations are self-regulating. Their numbers don’t grow beyond the natural prey base or the territorial space they need to occupy. Okanogan County only has enough physical space (territory) for a limited number of wolves, and they will kill other wolves and predators to defend their territory.

But what about us — wolves are known to attack and kill humans! This is where the facts can really help set aside irrational and unfounded fears. There is only one confirmed human life lost due to wolves in all of North America. For perspective, compare that to 34 fatal dog attacks in the USA in 2010 alone, and that 1,000 people are treated every day in the States for bites, maulings and attacks by dogs. Fear of wolves is not something to lose sleep over.

Wolves will decimate elk and deer herds! To really look at all the facts, research, and hunting statistics with an unbiased view, would take another whole article, which I would be glad to write. To get you thinking, 23 of Idaho’s 29 game management zones have elk numbers within or above management targets. With 150,000 elk, Montana is 14% over the state management objective, and Wyoming with 120,000 elk is 50% above objective. As an avid elk & deer hunter, I realize wolves change herd behavior. In order to remain successful, hunters will have to adapt, which in turn will make them better hunters.

To learn more about wolves, rancher compensation, wolf ungulate interactions and the basis for wolf recovery in Washington State go to: http://wdfw.wa.gov/conservation/gray_wolf/mgmt_plan.html and take a look at the Washington Wolf Conservation and Management Plan. You will be surprised in its thoroughness, fairness and balanced approach to the return of wolves in our state.

Jay Kehne is an avid hunter, backpacker, skier, wildlife advocate, and livestock owner, who makes his home with his family along the Okanogan River. He has degrees in Wildlife Biology and Soil Science from WSU. 

Some Good Sites

Joshua Tree’s Uprising Adventure Guides

Renacuajo Productions

Conservation NW

The Center for Biological Diversity


33 thoughts on “Wolf Interrupted”

  1. Note: In this post I erroneously state that the pack, “A bit farther south in the Cascade Range … in the middle of a USFS allotment” is being referred to as the Smackout pack. The Smackout pack is located Northeast of the Methow Valley. The pack I was actually referring to is the Teanaway pack and the alpha female is a daughter of the once thriving Lookout pack’s alpha pair. Hope really does spring eternal!

  2. After reading this post, a dear friend and kindred spirit emailed this note below (Thank you, Kathy):

    “On my recent trip through Montana, I parked beside a pickup with the bumper sticker: “Smoke a pack a day” – next to a picture of a wolf with the red circle, line through…..Pride about that level of ignorance is unsettling, if not down right scary. I cross my fingers that hope does spring eternal.”

  3. The family that has been active in eliminating wildlife species in this valley can only hope for a jury from many miles away. May they at least receive prison time. Too many separate violations to remain innocent until proven guilty. Hang them!

  4. Now Dave, I would never promote violence against any creature, and I am certainly opposed to the death penalty in any form. But maybe a wee bit o’ well-intentioned discomfort would be fun to impose? Say, perhaps hanging them from their toenails for just a little while?
    All kidding aside, I would like to see justice served -by the proper authorities and to its fullest extent (which will not likely involve any toenails)…

  5. Well of course. All your comments are so correct. ACORN and the DNC have taught the north american wolves to be peaceful, considerate, tolerant, and progressive to all prey species. Unfortunately, the Grizzly have not not got the talking points handed out by you know it all Outside experts, and have eat about four screaming like girl libtards in WY an MT since tourist season began.

  6. Dearest ‘tml’,
    What, are you afraid to use your name? Anywho, I am curious what ACORN and the DNC have to do with wolves (Obama, a Democrat as you know, certainly didn’t help their situation by approving the budget with that lame rider, weakening the Endangered Species Act, dammit).
    You play and hunt in grizzly territory -the departed, ahem, hunter in MT was in a grizzly recovery zone- you take your risks. I do when I head out there and am of the firm belief that us humanbeans need not always occupy the tippy top o’ the food-chain.
    tml, In order to have prey, you need predators. It’s a circle.
    Sincerely from this “Outside expert”,

  7. Oh, TLM, what a stunning and articulate response to Tricia’s piece. Where did you get your training in logic and rhetoric? Please go educate yourself. In fact, your response is a travesty in political correctness from the contard side of America. My name is Mary Sojourner. What’s yours?

  8. Now TLM, I like a good rant as much as anyone, especially if it helps get the poison out of the system. What I really like is a quality rant which I define as razor sharp remarks specifically and humorously aimed at the position you disagree with, but that also reveals the point you are trying to make. Another words, aim at the target and fire away. Believe it or not, TLM, I am at a loss to understand just exactly what it is you are trying to say. WOLVES? ACORN? DNC? GRIZZLIES? GIRL LIBTARDS? TOURISTS? I am suffering severe cognitive dissonance, otherwise known as a mind fluster-cluck! Help me out, buddy.

  9. Just a friendly critique for TLM.

    Instead of this:

    “and have eat about four screaming like girl libtards in WY an MT since tourist season began”.

    For more clarity, maybe you could word your last sentence like this:

    “and have eaten approximately four liberal retards who were screaming like girls. The incidents have occurred in Wyoming and Montana since the start of tourist season”.

  10. Hey, AK-
    Thanks! I really could not understand that passage by TLM (My error earlier with the TML. Whatever). I now have much more clarity in TLM’s intended sentiment and far less fluster-cluck. Perhaps Vince will, as well?
    I should have you proof my stuff before I send it to Fayhee; I believe he would wholeheartedly agree.
    All of that aside, TLM kinda scares me.
    The Girl Libtard, Tricia

  11. tricia’s article, and tricia, has (have) started a thread — mostly ‘wolf’ (& girl-libtards) related, but this seems a good thread/line to jump on with what i think is a related observation.
    i’ve seen the dumbber(i mean ‘bumper’!) sticker WILDERNESS: LAND OF NO USES a few times in west Colo. & e. Utah. at this, i rankle, somewhat. i wish i had a ready supply of counter-stickers for this one (and a few others, not as applicable here). such as: WILDERNESS: LAND OF INFINITE POSSIBILITIES. EXPAND YOUR IMAGINATION. stuff like that. yeah, i know, such statements decry the roadblocks to DRILLbabyDRILL and LOGtheHECKoutOFit and DAMallRIVERS and MINEforANY&EveryTHINGevenREMOTELYpossible.
    whew. such idjits who advocate ‘smoke a pack a day’ (and think wilderness is “something bad”) may not descend from whatever human ancestors those of us who love life, see renewal in the wild, realize that a direct thread to nature is an intrinsic part of being not only who we are, but whom we hope to continue to mature and evolve into being.
    whew. pontification diminishing … receding …

  12. It is a shame that you didn’t have the courage or integrity to pick up the ph0ne like you had planned (or said you’d ‘wanted’ to do) in your article. I’ve known Michael Popp all of my life (I am 47 years old) and his knowledge of the wild, conservation and HIS integrity is impeccable. Had you rung that phone, he may have open your mind to the fact that too much of anything is not good. And as for what Irene hears around her dinner table…. I can assure you that she hears about the importance of conservation of God’s creatures and their environment… despite your obvious narrowmindedness or cowardess (considering your inability to call a 9 year old and ask her your question… “No harm intended.”), an outfitter and guide CAN have respect for the earth and understand the balance that must exist in it.

    Of course, from what I’ve read… it’s a mute point now… weren’t they named ‘predators’ last season and hunting began October 2012?

    Just saying…. shouldn’t assume so about PAPA POPP……. his supporters reach all the way to PITTSBURGH PA………….

  13. Dearest LAS:
    Too bad you did not have the courage to use your actual name … but Trolls never do. So happy Papa Popp has supporters all the way to “PITTSBURGH PA………”, he will need them. And I am confident the Wolves have supporters all around the globe, including in Pittsburgh.

  14. “He will need them”… does that imply a threat Tricia?…
    Once again your narrow mind is showing saying that those who don’t reveal their names are “Trolls”. There are legitimate reasons people CANNOT put their names out on the internet… so before you go assuming or name calling, why not ask why initials instead of assuming no courage? Of course, your reputation precedes you for not asking… as you proved in your article… you didn’t ask Mike and educate yourself about his background and why he feels the way he does about the wolves. If you did ANY further investigation into Mike Popp and his background and his experiences in the wilderness and outfitting, you neglected to report it here.

    My whole point in even posting on your thread has nothing at all to do with an opinion on the wolves as much as how you used a 9 year old and her father as the example and didn’t even have the integrity to follow through with calling to hear that father’s side of this argument. As you write, you simply found his number, found that he was an outfitter, found he was at a meeting with the Safe and Wolf Free Idaho, read his quote (and printed it)… and left it at that. As you state… “I had my answer.” Did you really?…

    If as a SENIOR CORRESPONDENT your intent was to promote your opinion, you did that very clearly. However, in that process by not making that call to “little Irene” you are guilty of vilification… just like the stories have done to the wolves….. how?

    You going “as far as locating little Irene’s phone number”…. I suggest you didn’t even leave your front porch… you showed that this SENIOR CORRESPONDENT at the Mountain Gazette chose to “vilify” a FATHER by NAME, first AND LAST… a father who does NOT live in a fairy tale world with his family and walks his children to the bus stop each day and has to be sure that these same wolves do not come near his children (including little Irene) at their bus stop. THAT TRICIA is not a red riding hood story… THAT is the REAL WORLD…. no Wylie Coyote and roadrunner here… no ACME safe to drop from the sky. Vilifying a man (not to mention his 9 year old daughter without taking the time and having the integrity to get his side might make one question what it takes to be a “Senior Correspondent” at the Mountain Gazette…..

  15. there’s a popular tune back here by a local band that ends “…. maybe getting in the last word doesn’t really mean you win…”

    “whatever”…. pretty lame last word…

    when a discussion ends with that, it indicates immaturity and/or an inability to take responsibility for their actions or inaction….

    good luck in your journalism/correspondence career…I’m sure it will continue to be one sided

    1. Alas, Las, Where were you in AUGUST 2011 when this blog post originated? Discussions have ended, it is all history. And how, do tell, did you come across this post? And what is your true, full name, oh friend of Papa Popp?

      BTW, from Wikipedia regarding Blogs, “Many blogs provide commentary on a particular subject; others function as more personal online diaries…”
      Wolf Interrupted was such a blog post. I know the difference between journalism and blogging. Sorry you did not, but now you do.

      All the best, of course, T.

  16. All history…. discussions over…. yes, maybe so about the wolves… but the part of your ‘blog’ that leaves a lasting impression on those who read it is their opinion of “Papa Popp”….

    Interesting you now want to know where I was in 2011 and how I came across the post…. and of course my full name… if it is “all history” and “discussions are over”… why the questions….

    BTW…. wikipedia also says that journalism” is the activity or product of journalists or others engaged in the preparation of written, visual, or audio material intended for dissemination through public media with reference to factual, ongoing events of public concern. It is intended to inform society about itself and to make public, things that would otherwise be private”.

    guess I misread the rest of the information in your ‘blog” to have factual information in it…

    my bad……

    1. Amen to what Bonnie writes in reply. Please look in recent comments for this post as she took the words right out of my mouth.

      Insofar as being lumped in by the Antis/Haters with “city people”, I recently moved from a wee mountain community of 100 people, to a sprawling (ha ha) mountain community of 500 people. I have never lived in a city …

  17. Wow. I know this was an old blog post, but since the haters feel free to post, I do also.

    First, I had no idea that wolves were Democrats. I guess I learned SOMETHING from these haters.
    TLM, (I can’t help it-the first thing these initials brought to my mind were “The Little Man”) I see that you are no scholar when it comes to the environment and wolves. Or, the environment at all. It seems you haven’t even taken in the most basic concept that “everything is connected”. EVERYTHING on the entire planet. You can’t cut a hole in a knitted blanket and expect the whole thing to maintain integrity.
    At any rate, I am not a biologist or a specialist on wolves. I do have an intense, lifelong interest in all canids and I LISTEN to the educated experts in this field.
    I DO live in Idaho-five generations worth, and I believe that most of the folks who are so hot to kill anything that moves in this state are NOT Idahoans, but transplanted know-it-alls. MOST of the people in this state who try to keep alive the myth of The Big Bad Wolf coincidentally, make a living or “sport” out of killing the very animals that they so vehemently profess to want to “conserve”. For only themselves, of course. Never mind that those “game” animals are doing horrific damage to the environment due to over population and grazing that would not happen should they have predators to look out for. Of course, it is all very complicated, so, perhaps, it is simply above your level of thought. Or perhaps you are one of those individuals who are so self-involved and greedy that it just doesn’t matter to you at all.
    As for LAS, (and, I am telling you, what these initials bought to mind is perhaps best left unsaid, although, perhaps a hint? “Large A__Sl__”. Sorry, sometimes I feel a quick need to stoop to the level of those without critical thinking skills) Your defense of a person that has said, in his own words that he believes that killing all wolves is the only way to go, well, he sounds like a moron to me, not someone with a lot of knowledge of the land. Certainly, he no doubt knows where to take people so that they can kill things. I am amazed that you don’t see this as a conflict of interest in wolf management. Yes, predators such as wolves will probably make his “job” a little more difficult, as the “game” animals will be much more alert and not grazing like cows in easy to access areas for him. Gawd! I am old enough to remember when seeing an elk in the wild was a rare occurrence! Now we are dodging them on our highways! Obviously, he is unable to adapt, so I don’t think he really has much for outdoor skills and knowledge. Why should anyone talk to him? He has made his position clear-All wolves must die and don’t bother him with science. His income is more important than the planet or anyone else’s love of the outdoors. What do you say to someone like that? Someone who is teaching his poor daughter the same narrow minded, self serving hate?
    There are some on both “sides” of this “issue” (how can a healthy environment be an “issue, anyway?) who will never even try to see the other’s viewpoint. You two are some of them. However, there are MANY people involved in this that are trying hard to make it work for everyone.
    We cannot continue to use this planet for the benefit of the few and disregard the devastation they cause in the name of “making a living”. We cannot continue to strip habitats of the delicate balance they need to thrive. We cannot continue to poison what little habitat is left after that in the name of profit.
    The wolf haters are simply greedy, in my opinion. Wolves belong in our environment. Wolves do not attack people. Wolves want nothing to do with people. If ranchers can learn to live with wolves (And they are! In droves with scientifically proven methods) , surely “hunters” can. Surely, the VAST majority of humans want to save the Earth, want to live in peace with the rest of Nature and want to learn how to do that. I, for one, am sick and tired of the few thinking they are so damn special that what the majority of people want is immaterial.
    BTW, I am sure that it makes you feel better to call all of your opponents “city people”, or whatever. Stop kidding yourself. There are plenty of us who have never set foot in a city bigger than Spokane, WA. Plenty of people who also have a claim to the land you consider “yours”. You are the minority, and in the end, you will be nothing more than an ugly part of history.

  18. Bonnie…
    You… just as Tricia are just as unmotivated or afraid to get the other side of the story or simply afraid of a 9 year old and her father.

    Being REACTIVE only makes a person appear immature and uneducated.. and causes them to run at the mouth and start name calling… which is what you did above.

    It is simple…. as I stated above… AND I’LL RESTATE IT THIS WAY…

    ” I could only imagine what she’d been hearing around the dinner table.”

    Tricia started out strong by saying she was going to call “little Irene” and chat with her (no harm intended) but for reasons unexplained in her blog… she DIDN’T….


    I could only imagine what she’d been hearing around the dinner table…..

    All I did Bonnie was challenge this “Senior Correspondent” to step up and get his side!

    “GAWD!” Bonnie… take a breather and re-read the posts… no hating Tricia.. no hating the wolves… a reader’s point of view… which the chance bloggers and journalists take when they put things out there on the internet!

    1. LAS,

      “Open ’em year round. Hunt ’em, trap ’em, run ’em over. Don’t make a collared wolf illegal to shoot. Shoot ’em!” was a direct quote from a statement made by Mike Popp during a PUBLIC meeting on wolf management in Salmon Idaho. Popp put himself out there, during a public meeting I remind you, revealing his unbalanced, violent sentiment and hatred toward wolves and wolf recovery.

      I did not call Irene Popp, his young daughter, because I did not want to bother a child, and the nut falls not far from the tree, as they say. If I would have contacted Irene, you would likely be hopping up and down with anger that I was attempting to upset an innocent little girl.


  19. It is interesting to me that between you and Bonnie you aren’t both absolutely EXHAUSTED with all the jumping you do…

    JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS…. about others….

    As I review all comments toward me from both you and Bonnie (oh and from Bonnie to TLM).. the jumping to conclusions, lack of taking the extra steps to broaden your knowledge base and the assumptions are astounding…

    …. oh, and let’s not forget the incessant “whatever” and other forms of the word….. (whatevs)…..

    a true show of intellect…. maturity as well as someone who can’t find anything else to say to defend or explain just why they didn’t do what they say they were going to do….

    guess it sucks to be called to task about why you didn’t do what you said you were going to do… especially when it involves a topic you propose to be so passionate about… calls into question your passion for the wolves if your’re not going to explore absolutely ALL sides…. doesn’t it…

  20. Hmm…las..you seem to be the reactive one. You can’t let anything go…
    The man’s words speak for him, just as your and mine do. I am well aware of the “other side” of this debate and need not interview one single man who has already made his views clear to all.

    I am now assuming that you are related to this guy somehow, so I will give you a pass on sounding reactive and ignorant. Maybe YOU need to take a look at the “other side” of the issue, as well.

    You seem far more concerned about this man’s reputation than he does. What is stopping him from coming here and saying it himself? Just not interested, you will say. Well, then, we have his answer already, in public statements that he does not care to defend or retract.

    So, get the bee out of your bonnet. If this guy is going to say crap like this in public then he had better be able to take the heat and understand what people will think of his “integrity”. Not only his words, but his ACTIONS are clear to see. If he knew anything about the environment that he exploits, then he would know that native predators are essential for the health of that environment. Or, he DOES know that, but it doesn’t “fit” his short term goals, so he just doesn’t care. Either way, I am not impressed with his “knowledge”. I don’t know why you are-perhaps because the only things you know are what he and his ilk have told you and you cannot look any further.

    This man, and many like him, are a direct threat to this planet and I will never stop calling them out or letting others know what these kinds of people think. The land he uses to make a living is not just HIS. It belongs most to the creatures that live and die there and then to ALL of us. So, yes, I will open my mouth to try to save it from at lease one selfish person. If I can stop just one, it will be worth it.

  21. Bonnie:
    Seems all you people out there do is jump to conclusions and ASSUME..
    You assume I am related.. then tell me what I’m going to “say” when you ask me a question about why he won’t come there and say things himself…. then you tell me “perhaps the only things” I know…

    remember Bonnie… all I did was ask Tricia why she didn’t do what SHE wrote she wanted to do or was going to do….

    that is it… that is all……

    you go ahead and open you mouth all you want…. defend all you want…. my questions to Tricia had absolutely nothing to do with you and you assumptions and jumping to conclusions about me… and what you think you know about me and what I’m going to say….

    your crystal ball is broken my friend…

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